Chapter 61

@ gil

yeah i know what you mean...something will go wrong if vincent gets his wish.....

I feel like if vincent goes away, gils past will still be bad....or gil will become the next glen.....it wont go as planned i know that much.....

I'm REALLY starting to think Gil's gonna be the one to kill Vincent... it's this creeping feeling.
'Cause if Vincent DOES get his 'wish' then it's gonna mess everything up!
I don't think I would like an ending where everything got all reversed as if it never happened...
But, I just don't know anymore!! o3o

*mind is fried*
*lost all reason to theorize*
*waits for next chapter like obedient dog*

Just clearing something out but, if I'm not mistaken the Will is a chain just like Alice (I remember reading that somewhere, but I can't remember where x.x) And Vince says: "I want you to obtain[u] the Will of Abyss..." did he mean form a contract? Or maybe find a way to control her? Another thing, there is a huge possibility of Leo betraying Vince, he asked Leo to it for him due to the fact he knows about her hate for him, and if Leo asked her she wouldn't exitate in erasing the existence of the one she hates, but if Leo can make a wish to the Will he can ask for Elliot's revival and not for Vincent's existence to be erased.

@ Gizele12

Good theory... I just KNOW Elliot's gonna come back somehow, and the Will of the Abyss is like, the ONLY way! Leo would totally wish for that!
And in order to obtain the Will of the Abyss, they need OZ, just as the Baskervilles said, right?

And wait... If Duke Nightray is dead... who's the successor? GIL?

Off Topic Question: I'm re-reading it, but if anyone has any ideas on who or what Demios is based on in Alice/ Through the looking Glass... I'd like to know...

I'm not sure there is a successor, Gil may find some problems since Pandora could think he is helping his brother or because he's an adopted child, it's known that Vince killed Duke Nightray but some could think he did that in order to pu Gil as the head of the Nightray's house since evryone is aware of his obssession with his brother. Vince may be actually doing bad to Gil instead of helping him with all this.

@Yura: Good question, I wonder where it is based from as well, better do some research.

Hmn.. yes. Again... good points... Wow.
This could spell the end for the Nightray's!!

Well, if Elliot DOES come back he'll be the next Duke,

uggh. This is killing me.

@ yura and gizele,

adding to your points, If Vincent really can erase his existence, then everything hes doing now in theory will go away. So in his mindset, he can basically do whatever as long as the goal in the end is achieved. Granted him going away will present many new problems for everyone (mostly gil), but vincent for some reason cant see that.

At this point, the successor is gil, no questions asked. he has raven AND is the only nightray survivor (Vincent doesnt count cause he betrayed pandora and they would never let him be a head now).

I hate to be a joykill, but i dont think elliot is coming back. Keep in mind that when break wanted his family to return, they just died in an even more cruel way, where instead of there being one survivor, there were none. If leo wishes elliot alive, then elliot might survive longer, but in the end he will most likely die again, along with others probably. Not to say that leo might still make the mistake anyways....

I HATE WAITING FOR NEW CHAPTERS DX

Personally I don't think Will of the Abyss is a chain. Well, rather, I don't think she used to be twins, or have a persona. I like what Glen says about it here.

The Russian translation (which I think makes more sense) reads: "The Will of the Abyss is disturbed. The Golden World is engulfed in darkness. And the chains who have formed contracts with us have gone wild because of this disturbance. This is all because of the Will of the Abyss. Originally, it was not supposed to exist in the Abyss. This "core," which rules over everything, was not meant to have self-awareness. It is impermissible. That is why the Baskervilles have to own the Will of the Abyss! We will gain this power, and nobody except us!"

So there was a point at which the Abyss, which seemed like a harmonious and neutral entity/world, developed self-awareness with its own motives and desires. That latter Abyss is what I consider the Will of the Abyss, and I blame Jack for it. I think this is Oz's sin of existence: that the Will of the Abyss desires him and chases after him and disorts the rest of the world. The Golden World has become a broken toybox whose core reflects Alice's memories of her hapy times with Jack.

This kinda goes with the hypothesis that Glen and Lacie were Alice's parents. I kinda think that a Baskerville like Glen, who is permeated by the power of the Abyss and is close to being a chain himself, isn't supposed to have kids. And that maybe he got Lacie pregnant and this prompted her to be sacrificed to the Abyss so the child wouldn't be born. Because this says the Alice twins were born in the Abyss from a human woman.

Okay, I'm rambling now and going off topic. *stops*

@Yura:

This is what I found on a therory for Demios...they still aren't sure...no one is...but this is the closest idea they have right now.

Demios's appearence is possibly a refrence to the Goat that Alice met on the train in Through The Looking Glass and What Alice Found There.

@ RedEyeGhost

HOLY CRAP! You are amazing! Those theories are so... pretty [lacks better words today]
Uggh. Can't wait 'till we can find out whats really going on.
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@Gilbert

GOOD POINT! I can definitely see the resemblance!

@RedEyedGhost Yeah I agree with you. I don't think she's a chain.
Nice theorie, it would all make sense!

Well, we'll have to wait and see how it'll all turn out...

XDDDDDD

Looks like the conversation is getting.....deeper and deeper.
Anywho, I have news for you guys. Pandora Hearts volume 15 will be out on July 27. XD
*prepares for tomatoes to be thrown at her*

Here, more info~

Oh, sweet! I bet Leo's on the cover!

My Thoughts in it.

Spoiler:

...I'm pretty sure it's not going to end in twenty chapters.