Retrace 67

for some odd reason i have a feeling jack is oz's real father O.O

Lily Baskerville wrote:

The Fallen Syndicate release might be in the next 3-6 hours if I can predict.

Yep, it's out. We finally managed to get HQ Raws, so if anyone wants to check the site or forum, all yours.

Lily Baskerville wrote:

Spoiler:

Er, Lacie had been dead for ages by the time Jack actually went after Glen.

So does that mean....

...it was how many years passed before Jack actually knew that Lacie died oAo

No, Jack always knew that Lacie died. During Sablier tragedy (which is when Jack slashed Gil) he was confronting Ozwald-Glen for fear of what he wanted to do to Alice.

I wanna say sometiiiiing!!! >

This chapter was really interesting.
We got to see a new charcter named "Glen"...
Man, now talking about them is gonna be confusing.
Zwei's already giving me trouble.
Bleuugh.

WHY does Lacie have to die?!

that and why is creepy Barma Lady obsessed with Glen;s head?
omg, I betcha her chain is Demios.

Does anyone find it awkward that if at this point Jack is 23, and wasnt he 25 when the Tradegy happened?
Doesnt that mean that theres only 2 years between now and the events at Sablier??
That really doesnt leave much time for 'Alice' to appear.
As well as little Gil and Vincent...
I dunno, im confused about that. Unless I have read wrong info about their ages -shrug-
whatever I guess, I'll just have to wait for the next chapter ;D

Wow, great chapter. (Yep, I'm late. Again.)

"She's a fickle girl. She often escapes from de mansion and finds a pet to dote on for the day."

So... Glen was hiding as the Baskerville servant. A little bit like Leo, isn't it? And...he was Lacies' older brother. Not lover. Or maybe just a cover as well. Hm-hm. Well, they actually share some resembleness, that's a fact.

"To me... Jack Vessalius... feels like water. Like a stretch of water so silent and still, even fish avoid it. When you look into it, the only thing you see is your own reflection. You can't see his true nature."

"Come until you realize this girl in front of you... is no more dream than you or I." Why? Because she's going to die soon? And why "no more dream than you or I"?! Because him and Jack are going to die as well? (Or so he thought, anyway?)

So, Miranda Barma is the Queen of Hearts.
And she wanted Glen's head. Which she probably got, considering Glen's head was, in fact, choped out of his shoulders eventually...

Ah, this is getting so danm interesting!
(And I think my theory is slowly coming to life!)

LBrook9 wrote:

Does anyone find it awkward that if at this point Jack is 23, and wasnt he 25 when the Tradegy happened?
Doesnt that mean that theres only 2 years between now and the events at Sablier??
That really doesnt leave much time for 'Alice' to appear.
As well as little Gil and Vincent...
I dunno, im confused about that. Unless I have read wrong info about their ages -shrug-
whatever I guess, I'll just have to wait for the next chapter ;D

You're right!
But, you see, 2 years is enough for little Gil and Vince to become their servants, if they aren't already.

About Alice and Alyss, if I remember correctly, the story goes that their mother (supposing that's Lacie and that she's about to die soon, which we know means "sacrificed to the Abyss") was in the Abyss during the pregnancy and birth. They were born there, I'm pretty positive about not being wrong about that.
Now, if they were born there, then Alice got out probably already looking like what she looks like now. In the Abyss time is subjective, remember?
Well, but that's just an idea.

I hope I was of some help.

Precious Hair - San wrote:

Wow, great chapter. (Yep, I'm late. Again.)

"She's a fickle girl. She often escapes from de mansion and finds a pet to dote on for the day."

So... Glen was hiding as the Baskerville servant. A little bit like Leo, isn't it? And...he was Lacies' older brother. Not lover. Or maybe just a cover as well. Hm-hm. Well, they actually share some resembleness, that's a fact.

"To me... Jack Vessalius... feels like water. Like a stretch of water so silent and still, even fish avoid it. When you look into it, the only thing you see is your own reflection. You can't see his true nature."

"Come until you realize this girl in front of you... is no more dream than you or I." Why? Because she's going to die soon? And why "no more dream than you or I"?! Because him and Jack are going to die as well? (Or so he thought, anyway?)

So, Miranda Barma is the Queen of Hearts.
And she wanted Glen's head. Which she probably got, considering Glen's head was, in fact, choped out of his shoulders eventually...

Ah, this is getting so danm interesting!
(And I think my theory is slowly coming to life!)

Err... that Glen... he was actually still Oswald at the time... we all know about Glen transferring his soul from body to body, right...? -blargh-

Really?! By the way he behaves I would think otherwise...
(And does that really work that way? I mean, Leo was born like that, wasn't he? :S)
But, OK. In that case, my bad. I guess.

Leo was born like that because Vincent and Jack didn't let Oswald-Glen transfer his soul to Gil, so "Glen" had to wait 100 years to reincarnate like a regular soul.

Ah, right. :S
I really should re-read all the manga.

Precious Hair - San wrote:

LBrook9 wrote:

Does anyone find it awkward that if at this point Jack is 23, and wasnt he 25 when the Tradegy happened?
Doesnt that mean that theres only 2 years between now and the events at Sablier??
That really doesnt leave much time for 'Alice' to appear.
As well as little Gil and Vincent...
I dunno, im confused about that. Unless I have read wrong info about their ages -shrug-
whatever I guess, I'll just have to wait for the next chapter ;D

You're right!
But, you see, 2 years is enough for little Gil and Vince to become their servants, if they aren't already.

About Alice and Alyss, if I remember correctly, the story goes that their mother (supposing that's Lacie and that she's about to die soon, which we know means "sacrificed to the Abyss") was in the Abyss during the pregnancy and birth. They were born there, I'm pretty positive about not being wrong about that.
Now, if they were born there, then Alice got out probably already looking like what she looks like now. In the Abyss time is subjective, remember?
Well, but that's just an idea.

I hope I was of some help.

Yeah I guess, I mean Gil and Vince kinda made sense, (Although 2 years is still a relatively short time for them to become SO attatched as they did.)
but I guess the whole AByss thing makes sense....but...its still confusing.
Not long to find out what happens next though I guess XD

Yah, it's confusing. As always, I must say

And yes ^^