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Isla Yura
Posts : 128 Join date : 2011-01-04 Age : 30 Location : Canada, eh?
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:11 am | |
| Okay, this chapter MADE MY DAY and was worth every millisecond of wait.
lmao, I was thinking about how Lottie had like, almost killed Leo way back when too. And I was SO thankful for the clearing up about the "Lacie" thing. I was like, "GENIUS!"
And... the wish! omg. I was just ranting about when she was gonna tell us. and she did. I'm so amazed and the shock! I can't even form the right words right now.
This is a BIG turn for the story. HUGE. It's only gonna get more and more intense from here. | |
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Itera
Posts : 496 Join date : 2011-06-26 Age : 27 Location : Pacific Northwest~
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:54 am | |
| For some reason I always get exhuberant whenever a new chapter comes out... I really liked this one, and I'm glad that Leo's past was pretty much explained this time. I feel so bad for him though - this whole time he's been under the impression that it's him that's crazy, and something's wrong with him, while truth was something different altogether... yet everything in his life seemed to prove his beleifs. I'm really anxious to see how the story continues from here on out (aren't we all?)... and then of course, Leo is too pretty -.- gorgeous really. I think he has to be at least one of the prettiest manga guy's I've ever seen. Not that's bad ^^ | |
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Precious Hair - San
Posts : 36 Join date : 2011-05-28 Age : 32 Location : Portugal
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:00 pm | |
| "I don't want to be ... the Will of Abyss anymore! And I want you to help me ... and that girl. Save Alice!"
This chapter explained a lot!
So, the Baskervilles were trying to kill the Will so they could restore de Abyss to its previous self… And Break not only promised he would help Alyss, he also promised he would save Alice! Then (correct me if I’m wrong), in order to fulfill his promise, Break will now be Leo’s direct enemy.
If what Leo says is true, then the Baskervilles and Glen himself were actually pretty good-intentioned. That explains how Jack could be friends with Glen.) Then, at some point, he must have realized Glen’s plan involved the death of innocent people and I suppose that was when he decided to fight Glen and stop the tragedy.
Curious thing is Leo and Oz are (re)playing their roles as Glen and Jack perfectly. Oz-Jack won’t let Leo-Glen split the blood of innocents, even if he is actually pretty good-intentioned. But it turned out Jack couldn’t PREVENT the spilling of blood… Will Oz be more efficient than Jack?
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LBrook9
Posts : 145 Join date : 2011-07-16 Age : 27 Location : England
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:44 pm | |
| Its like what everyone is saying, if the AByss used to be a wonderful place and the Baskervilles are trying to restore that, doesn't that make them good?? i mean surely if the Abyss returned to how it was then there wouldn't be things like Chain's killing people...
Its so ironic that whatever Pandora have been doing to prevent the return of Glen, it seems to have only sped up the process XD I kinda feel sorry for Leo...hes caught up in the middle of this, and really hasn;t had a very good life. Eliot was like his saviour, the Leo of chapters 27-58 seems so different to the other Leo's (before he met Elly, and after Elly's death) that its obvious he was a very big part of his life. I mean from his flashback (lol character origin flashback) it was kind of hinted that he didn't have many friends, so obviously Eliot meant a lot too him. And its kind of Pandora's fault in some ways that a lot of this happened.
I actually feel that in some of the most recent chapters the focus of the story is being moved from our original trio to Oz and Leo, who, in a way are reinacting the events of 100 years ago, It's like Precious Hair - San said, will Oz be more effective than Jack?? its kinda hard to guess, i mean from what we've seen Leo's personality is completely different from Glen's, although Oz and Jack's seem to be pretty similar.
Although this chapter answered many questions (Like Alyss' wish and the TRUE intention of the Baskervilles) it also raised a lot.
I seriously can't wait to see what happens next!! | |
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Isla Yura
Posts : 128 Join date : 2011-01-04 Age : 30 Location : Canada, eh?
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:37 am | |
| Me and my sister kinda speculated about what Leo said at the end of the Chapter.... Is he going to try and drag Oz into the Abyss? :O This Chapter had the most movement. Everything is going so fast! And all these theories... I can't keep up! *dizzy and faints* | |
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LoneNecromancer
Posts : 143 Join date : 2011-05-24 Age : 32 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:15 am | |
| - LBrook9 wrote:
- Its like what everyone is saying,
if the AByss used to be a wonderful place and the Baskervilles are trying to restore that, doesn't that make them good?? i mean surely if the Abyss returned to how it was then there wouldn't be things like Chain's killing people... They're trying to restore it by causing a massacre. Good people indeed. | |
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LBrook9
Posts : 145 Join date : 2011-07-16 Age : 27 Location : England
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:29 pm | |
| Thats not what I meant, I didn't say that they way they were going about it was right, but the idea itself isn't WRONG.
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Precious Hair - San
Posts : 36 Join date : 2011-05-28 Age : 32 Location : Portugal
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:55 pm | |
| Exactly. They are like good-intentioned murderers. But still, they ARE murderers… | |
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LoneNecromancer
Posts : 143 Join date : 2011-05-24 Age : 32 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:46 pm | |
| The question is, do you compromise your principles and join with them? | |
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LBrook9
Posts : 145 Join date : 2011-07-16 Age : 27 Location : England
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:18 pm | |
| I wouldn't join the Baskervilles cos I don't like how they do stuff, but the blame can't be placed entirely on them really. Pandora is just sugar coated i recon ;D | |
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LoneNecromancer
Posts : 143 Join date : 2011-05-24 Age : 32 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:52 pm | |
| I'd assume the blame comes from either Glen or Jack. Glen for giving the Baskerville their orders, or Jack for possibly maybe being the cause of why the Abyss is all messed up.
As for Pandora, considering they seemed to have been formed after the events at Sablier, I imagine they can't exactly be blamed for that. I doubt Oz, Gil and Alice are going to outright oppose Pandora in the future, considering they still have more mutual goals- finding out about what happened, opposing the whole massacre thing- but I can see them getting caught between rising conflict between Pandora and the Baskervilles. | |
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LBrook9
Posts : 145 Join date : 2011-07-16 Age : 27 Location : England
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:00 pm | |
| It's hard to know anything for sure with Pandora Hearts ¬.¬
But there is definatly rising tension between the Baskervilles and Pandora. I think each is willing to do whatever to get what they want.
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Itera
Posts : 496 Join date : 2011-06-26 Age : 27 Location : Pacific Northwest~
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:42 am | |
| That's true, for sure. -.-
And I agree on that point - for both sides I feel as if it's not the means that matter anymore (if that ever mattered at all), rather than the outcome. | |
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LoneNecromancer
Posts : 143 Join date : 2011-05-24 Age : 32 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:50 am | |
| A little pic that currently sums up the situation ;D: | |
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LBrook9
Posts : 145 Join date : 2011-07-16 Age : 27 Location : England
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:47 am | |
| lol LOVE Eliot's facepalm ;D
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Precious Hair - San
Posts : 36 Join date : 2011-05-28 Age : 32 Location : Portugal
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:59 am | |
| @LoneNecromancer: Oh, that's so cute! You did it yourself?
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LoneNecromancer
Posts : 143 Join date : 2011-05-24 Age : 32 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:57 pm | |
| No, Neiru (er, Red Eyed Ghost for those of you who don't know her by that name) found it some place and showed it to me. xD | |
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Leah
Posts : 339 Join date : 2011-03-29
| Subject: Re: Chapter 63 Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:53 pm | |
| ^ Aha, I've seen that picture it's from http://surfacage.tumblr.com/ < that person does some good Pandora Hearts sketches/fanart. C: | |
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